{"id":14689,"date":"2017-07-21T14:33:03","date_gmt":"2017-07-22T00:33:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.debito.org\/?p=14689"},"modified":"2017-07-28T10:56:42","modified_gmt":"2017-07-28T20:56:42","slug":"daily-show-on-overseas-media-interpreters-self-censorship-of-trumps-language-japanese-interpreter-plays-dumb-claims-no-way-to-express-grab-em-by-the-pussy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/?p=14689","title":{"rendered":"Daily Show on overseas media interpreters&#8217; self-censorship of Trump&#8217;s language:  Japanese interpreter plays dumb, claims no way to express &#8220;grab &#8217;em by the pu**y&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Books, eBooks, and more from Dr. Debito Arudou (click on icon):<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/handbook.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11452\" title=\"Guidebookcover.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/Guidebookcover.jpg\" alt=\"Guidebookcover.jpg\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/japaneseonly.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-11335\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/japaneseonlyebookcovertext-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"japaneseonlyebookcovertext\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/handbook.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1298\" title=\"Handbook2ndEdcover.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/Handbook2ndEdcover.jpg\" alt=\"Handbook for Newcomers, Migrants, and Immigrants to Japan\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/inappropriate.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-8577\" title=\"inappropriatecoverthumb150x226\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/03\/inappropriatecoverthumb150x226.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/japaneseonly.html#japanese\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1700\" title=\"jobookcover\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/jobookcover-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\u300c\u30b8\u30e3\u30d1\u30cb\u30fc\u30ba\u30fb\u30aa\u30f3\u30ea\u30fc\u3000\u5c0f\u6a3d\u5165\u6d74\u62d2\u5426\u554f\u984c\u3068\u4eba\u7a2e\u5dee\u5225\u300d\uff08\u660e\u77f3\u66f8\u5e97\uff09\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cinemabstruso.de\/strawberries\/main.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2735\" title=\"sourstrawberriesavatar\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/sourstrawberriesavatar.jpg\" alt=\"sourstrawberriesavatar\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/?cat=32\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-4921\" title=\"debitopodcastthumb\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/debitopodcastthumb.jpg\" alt=\"debitopodcastthumb\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/?p=12473\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-12474\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/06\/FodorsJapan2014cover-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"FodorsJapan2014cover\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nUPDATES ON TWITTER: arudoudebito<br \/>\nDEBITO.ORG PODCASTS on iTunes, subscribe free<br \/>\n&#8220;LIKE&#8221; US on Facebook at <a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/debitoorg\">http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/debitoorg<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/embeddedrcsmJapan\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/embeddedrcsmJapan<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/handbookimmigrants\">http:\/\/www.facebook.com\/handbookimmigrants<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/JapaneseOnlyTheBook\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/JapaneseOnlyTheBook<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/BookInAppropriate\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/BookInAppropriate<\/a><br \/>\nIf you like what you read and discuss on Debito.org, please consider helping us stop hackers and defray maintenance costs with a little donation via my webhoster:<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.dreamhost.com\/donate.cgi?id=17701\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/secure.newdream.net\/donate4.gif\" alt=\"Donate towards my web hosting bill!\" border=\"0\" \/><\/a><br \/>\n<i>All donations go towards website costs only. Thanks for your support!<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Hi Blog. \u00a0I&#8217;m trying to maintain my summer vacation (and a dry-out from the Internet for a little while), but every now and again I stumble across something interesting (what with this golden age of political comedy in the US), and here&#8217;s something indirectly Japan-related.<\/p>\n<p>Trevor Noah and company on the Daily Show make an interesting case about how Trump&#8217;s language, both in terms of content and syntax, is challenging for translators in other languages to render. \u00a0They make the point that the impact and nuance is often softened by translator self-censorship (or filling in the gaps with personal interpretations). \u00a0I understand well, having been in their situations more than once. \u00a0(And let me say here for the record: \u00a0I am not a trained interpreter, and I have had numerous debates with interpreters with accuracy versus diplomatic rendering of the language. \u00a0I fall on the side of total accuracy warts and all.) \u00a0Worth a watch:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/7qL1un6NPZA\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>But at minute 4:00 of the segment, the Japanese interpreter claims that there is no accurate way to translate Trump&#8217;s infamous &#8220;grab &#8217;em by the pu**y&#8221; remark. \u00a0She even claims that there is no word &#8220;in the exact sense&#8221; for &#8220;pu**y&#8221; in Japanese.<\/p>\n<p>Rubbish. \u00a0I can think of quite a few words that would do the trick, in content and especially in nuance. \u00a0The two easiest, of course, are <em>om*nko<\/em> or <em>om*nta<\/em>, as in &#8220;<em>om*nta o tsukandari shite<\/em>&#8220;, \u00a0and in Trump&#8217;s case I would even remove their honorific prefixes.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, that would require bleeping out the syllable after &#8220;man&#8221;, but it&#8217;s been done on Japanese TV before. \u00a0I&#8217;ve seen it.<\/p>\n<p>But I dislike it when people, especially in this case a professional interpreter, play dumb and deny. \u00a0Repeating that old lie that we heard as beginning Japanese students that &#8220;there are no bad words in Japanese&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Like it or not, &#8220;<em>om*nta&#8221;<\/em> what 45 said. \u00a0Portray it accurately. \u00a0Or, as the segment argued well, the awfulness of 45&#8217;s speech is bleached out simply because the interpreter is being too diplomatic, cultured, or prudish. \u00a0Dr. Debito Arudou<\/p>\n<p>=================================<\/p>\n<p><em>Do you like what you read on Debito.org? \u00a0Want to help keep the archive active and support Debito.org&#8217;s activities? \u00a0Please consider donating a little something. \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/?p=13748\">More details here<\/a>. Or even click on an ad below.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Trevor Noah and company on the Daily Show make an interesting case about how Trump&#8217;s language, both in terms of content and syntax, is challenging for translators in other languages to render. \u00a0They make the point that the impact and nuance is often softened by translator self-censorship (or filling in the gaps with personal interpretations)  But at minute 4:00 of the segment, the Japanese interpreter claims that there is no accurate way to translate Trump&#8217;s infamous &#8220;grab &#8217;em by the pu**y&#8221; remark. \u00a0She even claims that there is no word &#8220;in the exact sense&#8221; for &#8220;pu**y&#8221; in Japanese.<\/p>\n<p>Rubbish. \u00a0I can think of quite a few words that would do the trick, in content and especially in nuance. \u00a0The two easiest, of course, are om*nko or om*nta, as in &#8220;om*nta o tsukandari shite&#8221;, \u00a0and in Trump&#8217;s case I would even remove their honorific prefixes. Of course, that would require bleeping out the syllable after &#8220;man&#8221;, but it&#8217;s been done on Japanese TV before. \u00a0I&#8217;ve seen it. \u00a0  But I dislike it when people, especially in this case a professional interpreter, play dumb and deny. \u00a0Repeating that old lie that we heard as beginning Japanese students that &#8220;there are no bad words in Japanese&#8221;.  Like it or not, &#8220;om*nta&#8221; what 45 said. \u00a0Portray it accurately. \u00a0Or, as the segment argued well, the awfulness of 45&#8217;s speech is bleached out simply because the interpreter is being too diplomatic, cultured, or prudish. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[22,50,52,23,26,13,31,8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14689","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-cultural-issue","category-gaiatsu","category-hate-speech","category-humor","category-ironies-hypocrisies","category-media","category-tangents","category-8"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14689","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=14689"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14689\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=14689"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=14689"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=14689"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}