{"id":4878,"date":"2009-11-11T00:21:16","date_gmt":"2009-11-10T15:21:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.debito.org\/?p=4878"},"modified":"2009-11-11T15:54:11","modified_gmt":"2009-11-11T06:54:11","slug":"mutantfrogs-joe-joness-excellent-discussion-of-rights-and-wrongs-of-divorce-in-japan-causes-stark-conclusions-for-me","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/?p=4878","title":{"rendered":"Mutantfrog&#8217;s Joe Jones&#8217;s excellent discussion of rights and wrongs of divorce in Japan; causes stark conclusions for me"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/handbook.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1298\" title=\"HANDBOOKsemifinalcover.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/02\/HANDBOOKsemifinalcover.jpg\" alt=\"Handbook for Newcomers, Migrants, and Immigrants to Japan\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/welcomestickers.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1704\" title=\"welcomesticker\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/welcomesticker-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\\\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.francajapan.org\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1705\" title=\"franca-color\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/franca-color-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Foreign Residents and Naturalized Citizens Association forming NGO\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/tshirts.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1701\" title=\"joshirtblack2\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/joshirtblack2-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\\\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/joshirtblack2-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/joshirtblack2.jpg 240w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 75px) 100vw, 75px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/japaneseonly.html#japanese\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1700\" title=\"jobookcover\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/jobookcover-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\u300c\u30b8\u30e3\u30d1\u30cb\u30fc\u30ba\u30fb\u30aa\u30f3\u30ea\u30fc\u3000\u5c0f\u6a3d\u5165\u6d74\u62d2\u5426\u554f\u984c\u3068\u4eba\u7a2e\u5dee\u5225\u300d\uff08\u660e\u77f3\u66f8\u5e97\uff09\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/japaneseonly.html#english\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1699\" title=\"japaneseonlyecover\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/japaneseonlyecover-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"JAPANESE ONLY:  The Otaru Hot Springs Case and Racial Discrimination in Japan\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cinemabstruso.de\/strawberries\/main.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2735\" title=\"sourstrawberriesavatar\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/sourstrawberriesavatar.jpg\" alt=\"sourstrawberriesavatar\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/?cat=32\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-4921\" title=\"debitopodcastthumb\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/debitopodcastthumb.jpg\" alt=\"debitopodcastthumb\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a>UPDATES ON TWITTER:  arudoudebito<\/p>\n<p>Hi Blog. \u00a0I often stop by an excellent website run by some young-Turk commentators on Japan called <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mutantfrog.com\/\">Mutantfrog<\/a>. \u00a0Full of insight and well-thought-out essays, one caught my eye a few weeks ago regarding what the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/?p=4784\">Savoie Child Abduction Case<\/a> has brought to the fore about divorce in Japan. \u00a0I won&#8217;t quote it in full (let&#8217;s give the hits to Mutantfrog), but here&#8217;s the link and an excerpt:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mutantfrog.com\/2009\/10\/08\/all-thats-wrong-with-international-divorce-in-japan\/\">http:\/\/www.mutantfrog.com\/2009\/10\/08\/all-thats-wrong-with-international-divorce-in-japan\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s Joe&#8217;s conclusion:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>I don\u2019t have a wife or kids yet. Debito, <\/em><a style=\"color: #0066cc; text-decoration: none;\" onclick=\"javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('\/outbound\/article\/www.debito.org');\" href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/thedivorce.html\"><em>who has written extensively about his own divorce and loss of children<\/em><\/a><em> (a dreadfully sad story, but an excellent overview of how the system works here), chided me in a Facebook comment thread for daring to state my opinions while I lack skin in the game. Lest anyone get the wrong idea, I respect Debito, who gave me, Roy and Curzon the privilege of hearing his story in person a good year before he made it public. But where I come from, having no skin in the game is called \u201cobjectivity,\u201d and does not by any means disqualify an opinion.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>For what it\u2019s worth, I do have some skin in the game, as I am engaged to get married early next year. While I have given up on <\/em><a style=\"color: #0066cc; text-decoration: none;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.mutantfrog.com\/2006\/06\/03\/selling-my-kids-to-a-caymans-entity\/\"><em>my farcical plans to transfer my kids to an offshore investment vehicle<\/em><\/a><em>, I am still very cognizant that the law (even as I think its mechanics should work) may bite me in the rear someday if my marriage ever breaks down.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Sadly, a lot of the discussion surrounding these issues, whether regarding particular cases or the system in general, devolves into parental narcissism, envy and finger-pointing. The whole framework of marriage, divorce and custody is ultimately not about what Mom or Dad wants: it\u2019s about protecting children and giving them a chance to inherit the world as capable individuals. So, as I see it, we have to approach it from that perspective regardless of which side we occupy on the wedding cake.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Of course. \u00a0So from a more neutral perspective, I conclude this:<\/p>\n<p><strong>NOBODY SHOULD GET MARRIED AND HAVE CHILDREN UNDER THE CURRENT MARRIAGE LAWS AND FAMILY REGISTRATION SYSTEM IN JAPAN.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong> <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>NOT JAPANESE.  NOT NON-JAPANESE.  NOT ANYONE.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Because if people marry and have kids, one parent will lose them, meaning all legal ties, custody rights, and visitation rights, in the event of a divorce. \u00a0This is not good for the children.<\/p>\n<p>Japan has had marriage laws essentially\u00a0unamended since 1898! \u00a0(See <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=1AF56lWlKWEC&amp;dq=Fuess,+Divorce+in+Japan&amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;source=bn&amp;hl=en&amp;ei=Vlr5SoCpMork6gO0tY2VCg&amp;sa=X&amp;oi=book_result&amp;ct=result&amp;resnum=4&amp;ved=0CBAQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&amp;q=&amp;f=false\">Fuess, Divorce in Japan<\/a>) \u00a0Clearly this does not reflect a modern situation, and until this changes people should go Common-Law (also not an option in Japan), and make it clear to their representatives that Japan&#8217;s current legal situation is not family-friendly enough for them to tie the knot.<\/p>\n<p>Some reforms necessary:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li><strong>Abolition of the Koseki Family Registration system (<a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/?p=1843\">because that is what makes children property of one parent or the other, and puts NJ at a huge disadvantage<\/a>).<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Recognize Visitation Rights (<em>menkai ken<\/em>) for both parents during separation and after divorce.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Recognize Joint Custody (<em>kyoudou kango ken<\/em>) after divorce.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Enforce the Hague Convention on Child Abductions and the Convention on the Rights of the Child.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Enforce overseas custody court decisions in Japanese courts.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Recognize &#8220;Irreconcilable Differences&#8221; (<em>seikaku no fuitchi<\/em>) as grounds for divorce. \u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/thedivorce.html\">See why here<\/a>.<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Shorten legal separation (<em>bekkyo<\/em>) times from the current benchmark of around five years to one or two. <\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Stock the Mediation Councils (<em>choutei<\/em>) with real professionals and trained marriage counselors (not <em>yuushikisha<\/em> (&#8220;people with awareness&#8221;), who are essentially folks off the street with no standardized credentials).<\/strong><\/li>\n<li><strong>Strengthen Family Court powers to enforce contempt of court for perjury (lying is frequent in divorce proceedings and currently essentially unpunishable), and force police to enforce court orders involving restraining orders and domestic violence (Japanese police are disinclined to get involved in family disputes).<\/strong><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>There are plenty more suggestions I&#8217;m sure readers could make, but chew on that for awhile, readers. \u00a0Arudou Debito in Sapporo<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> I often stop by an excellent website run by some young-Turk commentators on Japan called Mutantfrog.  Full of insight and well-thought-out essays, one caught my eye a few weeks ago regarding what the Savoie Child Abduction Case has brought to the fore about divorce in Japan.  It made me draw some harsh conclusions.  Here they are:<\/p>\n<p>NOBODY SHOULD GET MARRIED AND HAVE CHILDREN UNDER THE CURRENT MARRIAGE LAWS AND FAMILY REGISTRATION SYSTEM IN JAPAN.<\/p>\n<p>NOT JAPANESE. NOT NON-JAPANESE. NOT ANYONE.<\/p>\n<p>Because if people marry and have kids, one parent will lose them, meaning all legal ties, custody rights, and visitation rights, in the event of a divorce.  This is not good for the children.<\/p>\n<p>Japan has had marriage laws essentially unamended since 1898!  (See Fuess, Divorce in Japan)  Clearly this does not reflect a modern situation, and until this changes people should go Common-Law (also not an option in Japan), and make it clear to their representatives that Japan&#8217;s current legal situation is not family-friendly enough for them to tie the knot.<\/p>\n<p>Some reforms necessary:<\/p>\n<p>Abolition of the Koseki Family Registration system (because that is what makes children property of one parent or the other, and puts NJ at a huge disadvantage).<\/p>\n<p>Recognize Visitation Rights (menkai ken) for both parents during separation and after divorce.<\/p>\n<p>Recognize Joint Custody (kyoudou kango ken) after divorce.<\/p>\n<p>Enforce the Hague Convention on Child Abductions and the Convention on the Rights of the Child.<\/p>\n<p>Enforce overseas custody court decisions in Japanese courts.<\/p>\n<p>Recognize &#8220;Irreconcilable Differences&#8221; (seikaku no fuitchi) as grounds for divorce. <\/p>\n<p>Shorten legal separation (bekkyo) times from the current benchmark of around five years to one or two.  <\/p>\n<p>Stock the Mediation Councils (choutei) with real professionals and trained marriage counselors (not yuushikisha (&#8220;people with awareness&#8221;), who are essentially folks off the street with no standardized credentials).<\/p>\n<p>Strengthen Family Court powers to enforce contempt of court for perjury (lying is frequent in divorce proceedings and currently essentially unpunishable), and force police to enforce court orders involving restraining orders and domestic violence (Japanese police are disinclined to get involved in family disputes).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[28,49,44,20,5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4878","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-anti-discrimination-templates","category-child-abductions","category-discussions","category-history","category-human-rights"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4878","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=4878"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4878\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=4878"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=4878"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=4878"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}