{"id":6426,"date":"2010-04-12T09:03:20","date_gmt":"2010-04-12T00:03:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.debito.org\/?p=6426"},"modified":"2010-04-12T09:15:48","modified_gmt":"2010-04-12T00:15:48","slug":"asahi-j-companies-abandoning-old-hiring-and-promotion-practices-offering-nj-employees-equitable-positions-seriously-thats-what-they-say-say-what","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/?p=6426","title":{"rendered":"Asahi:  J companies abandoning old hiring and promotion practices, offering NJ employees equitable positions (seriously, that&#8217;s what they say!).  Come again?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/handbook.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1298\" title=\"HANDBOOKsemifinalcover.jpg\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/02\/HANDBOOKsemifinalcover.jpg\" alt=\"Handbook for Newcomers, Migrants, and Immigrants to Japan\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/welcomestickers.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1704\" title=\"welcomesticker\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/welcomesticker-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\\\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.francajapan.org\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1705\" title=\"franca-color\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/franca-color-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"Foreign Residents and Naturalized Citizens Association forming NGO\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/tshirts.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1701\" title=\"joshirtblack2\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/joshirtblack2-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\\\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/joshirtblack2-225x300.jpg 225w, https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/joshirtblack2.jpg 240w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 75px) 100vw, 75px\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/japaneseonly.html#japanese\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1700\" title=\"jobookcover\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/jobookcover-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\u300c\u30b8\u30e3\u30d1\u30cb\u30fc\u30ba\u30fb\u30aa\u30f3\u30ea\u30fc\u3000\u5c0f\u6a3d\u5165\u6d74\u62d2\u5426\u554f\u984c\u3068\u4eba\u7a2e\u5dee\u5225\u300d\uff08\u660e\u77f3\u66f8\u5e97\uff09\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/japaneseonly.html#english\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-thumbnail wp-image-1699\" title=\"japaneseonlyecover\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2008\/05\/japaneseonlyecover-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"JAPANESE ONLY:  The Otaru Hot Springs Case and Racial Discrimination in Japan\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.cinemabstruso.de\/strawberries\/main.html\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-2735\" title=\"sourstrawberriesavatar\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/03\/sourstrawberriesavatar.jpg\" alt=\"sourstrawberriesavatar\" width=\"75\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/?cat=32\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-4921\" title=\"debitopodcastthumb\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/11\/debitopodcastthumb.jpg\" alt=\"debitopodcastthumb\" width=\"100\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><br \/>\nUPDATES ON TWITTER:  arudoudebito<br \/>\nDEBITO.ORG PODCASTS now on iTunes, subscribe free<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s something that goes against common experience and common sense: \u00a0The Asahi claiming that more major Japanese companies are hiring NJ more equitably. \u00a0As in, they&#8217;ll be leaders in a quarter-century or so. \u00a0Yeah, I heard that back in the Eighties during the &#8220;Kokusaika Boom&#8221;, when I too was hired at Japanese companies to help with companies &#8220;internationalization&#8221;, and got out real quick when I realized it was fallacious. \u00a0What do others think? \u00a0Have things changed? \u00a0I have included some posts below from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/TheCommunity\">The Community<\/a> talking about this, and they seem to disagree with the Asahi. \u00a0Arudou Debito in Sapporo<\/p>\n<p>\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/<\/p>\n<p><strong>Japanese firms adopt a global appearance<br \/>\nBY SOICHI FURUYA AND MAKOTO ODA THE ASAHI SHIMBUN<br \/>\n2010\/04\/06, Courtesy of JH.<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.asahi.com\/english\/TKY201004050360.html\">http:\/\/www.asahi.com\/english\/TKY201004050360.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>With overseas markets increasingly seen as the key to their survival, Japanese companies are adopting a more &#8220;international&#8221; look at home involving changes that would have been unheard of years ago.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Long-held practices in hiring have been scrapped, as have limits on positions available to non-Japanese at the companies&#8217; head offices in Tokyo and other Japanese cities.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Methods of communication have shifted as foreigners take on increasingly important roles in devising strategy for overseas sales.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>The employment of Lee Guanglin Samson, a 29-year-old Singaporean, is one example of how electronic appliance maker Toshiba Corp. is evolving.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8220;Judging that a more global use of human personnel is necessary, we decided not to use Japanese-language abilities as a requirement for employment,&#8221; said Seiichiro Suzuki, head of Toshiba&#8217;s personnel center. &#8220;Those whom we want are people who will be able to become leaders of business divisions 25 years later.&#8221;<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>During his days at the National University of Singapore, Lee became so interested in Japanese culture that he read the English version of &#8220;The Tale of Genji,&#8221; an ancient and voluminous novel that no doubt took time away from his studies of his major: electrical engineering.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>A job at Toshiba would have been impossible for Lee during his undergraduate years because of the company&#8217;s policy at the time to only employ foreigners who had studied at Japanese universities.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>But in fiscal 2006, Toshiba began hiring graduates of universities in Thailand, Singapore and other countries where it has key offices.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>After graduation, Lee in October 2006 joined Toshiba and was later assigned to its Corporate Software Engineering Center in Kawasaki.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8220;Toshiba is a global company. If I have a chance, I want to work at its overseas research center to expand my experience and knowledge,&#8221; he said.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Currently, nearly 140,000 foreign nationals work at businesses in Japan.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>According to a labor minitry-commissioned survey conducted by the Fujitsu Research Institute on about 800 companies from September through October last year, nearly 40 percent of those companies have hired foreigners with high-level knowledge and skills, including engineers, in recent years.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>But 58 companies have suspended their employment of foreigners, showing that language barrier and corporate culture clashes remain a potential problem.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>In a country where company loyalty remains relatively strong, 25 percent of those companies said they stopped hiring foreigners because previous hires had left for other companies offering better working conditions.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>In addition, 20 percent said they lacked supervisors who could work effectively with the foreign employees.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>But the trend has been to expand hiring of non-Japanese as the domestic market shrinks and the declining birthrate is expected to lead to a huge shortage in demand in future years.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>For Panasonic Electric Works Co., a maker of kitchen systems and other home-related products, a key economic statistic was 2009 housing starts, which stood at about 800,000, less than half of their peak.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8220;We cannot help but put more emphasis on overseas businesses. First of all, we will promote internationalization in our own company,&#8221; said Masayasu Yukioka, head of employment at Panasonic Electric&#8217;s personnel division.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>As part of that process, the company hired Musaeva Feruza, from Uzbekistan, in 2008 at its personnel division.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>&#8220;By using senses of values that are different from those of Japanese, we will be able to manufacture products that are suitable for each region (of the world),&#8221; Feruza said in a seminar in March for foreigners studying in Japan and hoping to land jobs at the company.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Meanwhile, Internet shopping site operator Rakuten Inc. regards 2010 as the year to develop into a truly global company.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>In February, Rakuten began distributing papers written in English instead of Japanese at its Monday morning executive meetings, a policy that soon covered meetings attended by all employees.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>And in March, the dozens of participants at the executive meetings were required to speak in English.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Rakuten assigns graduates of overseas universities to technological divisions in which they are required to improve their Japanese-language skills and learn in-house culture.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Those non-Japanese are expected to eventually play key roles in Rakuten&#8217;s offices overseas.<br \/>\nENDS<\/em><\/strong><br \/>\n\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/<br \/>\nOriginal Japanese follows:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/asahihiring040410.tiff\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-6427\" title=\"asahihiring040410\" src=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/04\/asahihiring040410.tiff\" alt=\"\" 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\/>\nENDS<\/p>\n<p>\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/<\/p>\n<p><strong>COMMENTS FROM <\/strong><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/TheCommunity\">THE COMMUNITY<\/a>:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>April 7, 2010<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>From AB:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>Had two interviews at two major Japanese companies about two months ago<br \/>\n(Nitori, the &#8220;home fashion&#8221; store found throughout Japan, and Zensho, the<br \/>\ncompany behind Sukiya and family restaurants, 3rd largest food company<br \/>\nbehind McDonalds and Skylark). \u00a0I got &#8220;we don&#8217;t think a foreigner can handle<br \/>\nthe intense Japanese work environment&#8221; from both, Nitori in particular<br \/>\nnarrowed it down from &#8220;foreigner&#8221; to &#8220;Americans,&#8221; saying that it&#8217;s not<br \/>\nlikely I&#8217;d be able to keep up, and even if I did, I would just get burned<br \/>\nout, because that&#8217;s just how Americans are. \u00a0The ultimate rejection was<br \/>\nmutual, I probably would have turned down their offer anyway after that.<br \/>\nThe guy was extremely rude, addressing me in horrible Japanese, no manners,<br \/>\netc. \u00a0It was so bizarre that I thought it might be a test, so I just slapped<br \/>\na smile on and went with it, but I guess they were legit in their<br \/>\ndiscrimination after all.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>This article just sounds like another case of &#8220;look at what an<br \/>\ninternationally minded country we are, har har!&#8221; fluff that I hear all the<br \/>\ntime when someone Japanese does something positive in the world. \u00a0If only<br \/>\nthe country could see things through our eyes for one day, they&#8217;d shut up<br \/>\nwith all of that \u3055\u3059\u304c\u65e5\u672c (sasuga nihon) crap that I hear all the time,<br \/>\nparticularly in the division of international affairs.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>==================<\/p>\n<p><strong>April 7, 2010<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>From CD:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>AB, thank you for writing about your experience. \u00a0Although I&#8217;m in a different field (TESOL), when I lived in Japan, my hobby was interviewing. \u00a0I liked practicing interviewing for jobs in \u00a0Japanese (and thought it was good to show that non-Japanese people could), or if they wanted English, fine. \u00a0But my main point was to show, even show myself, really, that interviews are not the same as begging, and that they should be a 2-way street. \u00a0Not everyone who&#8217;s interviewing is desperate to get that job. \u00a0The prospective employer needs to get down on bended knee and thank lucky stars when the right candidate appears&#8230;and it is incredible how many instead maintain some sort of weird &#8220;objective&#8221; distance, even when they want you to acccept the job&#8230; that always made me really want not to work there!! \u00a0Now that I&#8217;m in the hiring seat myself, I&#8217;ve found this to make a huge difference&#8230; we get the candidates we want, and their transition is smooth, because I try to make sure they\u00a0know from the first interview that we&#8217;d like them to come join us, and that we need and want them and would be nice co-workers.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Anyway, so I spent a lot of time turning down jobs, and almost always the reactions was SHOCK!! \u00a0But I&#8217;m offering you a JOB!!! \u00a0The funniest one was the time I applied to the [insert name of Japan, Inc.corporation] major competitor to the company my husband works for. First, it was just very interesting to see the differences between the 2 companies, because they both fit their corporate &#8220;branded&#8221; images to a &#8220;T&#8221;. Obviously someone had spent time making sure that interviews were part indoctrination from the get-go! \u00a0Don&#8217;t want any riff-raff sneaking in.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>And second, it was amazing what a massive issue it seemed to be that I was related to someone who worked for the competitor. \u00a0Lots and lots of hemming and hawing and bizarre-seeming questions (would I be willing to tape over my cellphone&#8217;s camera while on site to prevent corporate espionage???&#8230;um, yes, but wouldn&#8217;t it just be easier not to hire someone who&#8217;s going to spy on you?)<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Finally, the offer was made&#8230;ta-dah!! \u00a0I had the right to accept a 2-year, term-contract position, for a generous salary that was about 1\/3 of what I was making teaching English to kids 3-4 hours a day.<\/p>\n<p>My duties: \u00a0write and revise all PR releases and be essentially available to do whatever else they wanted me to do&#8230;everything from &#8220;helping&#8221; teach company classes to checking people&#8217;s emails to having &#8220;conversation lunches&#8221; with the secretaries was mentioned.<\/p>\n<p>The schedule? 9-6, Mon-Fri.<\/p>\n<p>I said (somewhere must have the tape I sneakily took), &#8220;although in the United States, that would be considered full-time work, essentially this is a part-time position, isn&#8217;t it?&#8221; (it was, of course, with no benefits).<\/p>\n<p>They thought that was hilarious!! \u00a0How clever I was!! \u00a0I smiled and thanked them and went home, and they were going to call the next day, &#8220;after you have a chance to consult your husband about our offer.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Tomorrow rolled around, and I said that I&#8217;d be happy to accept the position under the same working conditions as any average Japanese freshman employee&#8230;ie, lifetime employment, no special treatment.<\/p>\n<p>But what??? \u00a0I&#8217;m not Japanese!! \u00a0Why would I want that? \u00a0I would never be able to adjust!! \u00a0I told them that I had a pretty good idea, from watching my husband&#8217;s job, just what would be required, and felt confident in my ability.<\/p>\n<p>No, I had to take the term-limited part-time job or nothing. \u00a0They did point out that the salary they were offering was higher than the starting salary for freshmen workers.<\/p>\n<p>Needless to say, I decided not to take it. \u00a0It would have been interesting, though.<\/p>\n<p>Their final reaction? \u00a0&#8220;But you don&#8217;t understand&#8230;this is [insert name of Japan, Inc. multinational corporation]. \u00a0No one turns us down.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Japan&#8230;gotta keep yourself entertained!!<\/p>\n<p><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Oh, and the best advice I ever got on job hunting, courtesy of my brother-in-law: \u00a0&#8220;Never even pretend to change yourself to get a job. \u00a0If you do, they just hired someone they don&#8217;t want, and you just ended up with a job that doesn&#8217;t fit you. \u00a0If they hire the real you, you&#8217;ll both be happier.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>==================<\/p>\n<p><strong>April 7, 2010<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>From: \u00a0NM<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>The big companies have been hiring non-Japanese since the late 1980s, including technical staff. For view of what it&#8217;s like to be a permanent foreign employee in Japan Inc. see this book: <\/em><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/yk8u7lw\">http:\/\/tinyurl.com\/yk8u7lw<\/a><br \/>\nor<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1861977891\/qid=1149169815\/sr=1-1\/ref=sr_1_1\/102-7532168-7028949?s=books&amp;v=glance&amp;n=283155\">http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1861977891\/qid=1149169815\/sr=1-1\/ref=sr_1_1\/102-7532168-7028949?s=books&amp;v=glance&amp;n=283155<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1861977891\/qid=1149169815\/sr=1-1\/ref=sr_1_1\/102-7532168-7028949?s=books&amp;v=glance&amp;n=283155\"><\/a>==================<br \/>\n<strong>April 8, 2010<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>From: AB<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>That&#8217;s a good story, CD. \u00a0I can imagine that if I DID make it through<br \/>\nthat last interview at Nitori, I would have at least made it an issue once I<br \/>\nwas inside, if I didn&#8217;t just turn the position down all together.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>That&#8217;s also good advice. \u00a0The best advice I&#8217;ve gotten otherwise from fellow<br \/>\nforeign people working in Japan was, &#8220;just don&#8217;t even apply to Japanese<br \/>\ncompanies,&#8221; lol. \u00a0Seriously, that was the &#8220;common&#8221; advice from multiple<br \/>\npeople who don&#8217;t know each other, &#8220;just stick to foreign companies that<br \/>\naren&#8217;t going to treat you like an idiot.&#8221; One person suggested just going<br \/>\nback to your home country, apply to a major company, and request a post in<br \/>\nJapan or in their Tokyo office. \u00a0And when I take a step back and look at the<br \/>\nwhole picture, only one of my friends works for a major Japanese company,<br \/>\nand that was only because he applied from the American office as an American<br \/>\nwho just requested to work in Japan. \u00a0Everyone else works for foreign<br \/>\ncompanies that just happen to have offices\/locations in Japan.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>You say you&#8217;re in the hiring position now. \u00a0In Japan? \u00a0What company? \u00a0How do<br \/>\nI apply? \u00a0\ud83d\ude42 \u00a0My current job is going to end soon and although I&#8217;ve got my<br \/>\napplications out to several companies in Tokyo, nothing is set in stone yet.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>And [another author], I would LOVE to know about how to go about suing Nitori. \u00a0Not<br \/>\nto get money or anything, but just so they get a lesson in, &#8220;look at what<br \/>\nhappens when you treat people different based on nationality\/race.&#8221;<br \/>\nUnfortunately, for that incident, I have no proof. \u00a0If I spoke up now, I<br \/>\nwould just look like a disgruntled reject who is trying to strike back for<br \/>\nbeing rejected. \u00a0Even though I know there is no mistake, they would just<br \/>\neasily write it off as, &#8220;oh, he must have misunderstood us, as Japanese<br \/>\nisn&#8217;t his native language.&#8221; \u00a0The best I can do is just not shop at Nitori,<br \/>\nbut admittedly, that&#8217;s not very satisfying. \u00a0I&#8217;ll never forget him just<br \/>\nsaying, &#8220;the Japanese work environment is much more intense than your own<br \/>\ncountry, we&#8217;re not confident an American would be able to handle it.&#8221; \u00a0And<br \/>\nthen he topped off the end of the interview with, &#8220;well, I think you should<br \/>\njust stick to education.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Lol, just coincidence, and unrelated, but as I&#8217;m typing this in my Japanese<br \/>\noffice, I&#8217;m listening to a conversation about how they changed out everyones<br \/>\nold-school ball mouses for lasers because the ball mouses kept sticking and<br \/>\nwouldn&#8217;t drag properly. \u00a0Guess who&#8217;s computer is the only one that remains<br \/>\nunchanged, and who will never get a proper notification of &#8220;we have laser<br \/>\nmouses&#8221; outside of overhearing a conversation.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>======================<\/p>\n<p><strong>April 8, 2010<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>From: CD<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>I direct a university intensive English program here in the US&#8230;but when I was in Tokyo, yeah, I&#8217;d interview for anything. \u00a0I remember a shady-seeming &#8220;foreign ladies to introduce art exhibitions to potential investors&#8221; gig towards the end of the bubble years. \u00a0The salary was supposedly 600,000 yen\/ month, and there were at least 50 people interviewing the day I was. \u00a0It seemed pretty close to selling jeans at the Gap, but I only made it to Round 2, so maybe at some point art knowledge was required.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Rather than boycott the whole system, if it&#8217;s not going to upset your life, I&#8217;d recommend getting out there into the job market and sharing your honest perspective. \u00a0After all, if things just stay the same all the time, why would they change? \u00a0But it sounds like you need work, so forget the crusading and just be creative and positive in your search. \u00a0There is something good out there for you; it&#8217;s just a matter of finding it.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em> <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>And for those talking about suing, I am curious just what we might sue these companies for, considering that in Japan it&#8217;s not illegal to discriminate on the basis of race or ethnicity, right? They can do as they please, and they do. \u00a0In fact, the former Dean of the longest-existing US branch campus in Tokyo instructed me to take the non-discriminatory policy statement out of the university&#8217;s Chronicle ad&#8230;because the school is a Japanese private corporation, and so he had no need to follow the Equal Opportunity policy in hiring. \u00a0Students assumed that all of the American faculty came from the US, but of course we were mainly local hires. \u00a0So even Americans can learn to practice discriminatory hiring in Japan. <\/em><\/p>\n<p>========================<\/p>\n<p><strong>April 8, 2010<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>From EF<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>I&#8217;m sure we all have been turned down for one thing or another, however I<br \/>\nlook at as a blessing. \u00a0Mid last year I was turned down, because a Japanese<br \/>\nperson was a requirement. \u00a0My wife said to me, at least you don&#8217;t have to<br \/>\nworry about always playing on the visiting team if you got that job&#8230; \u00a0You<br \/>\nknow what, she was right.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>========================<\/p>\n<p>ENDS<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here&#8217;s something that goes against common experience and common sense:  The Asahi claiming that more major Japanese companies are hiring NJ more equitably.  As in, they&#8217;ll be leaders in a quarter-century or so.  Yeah, I heard that back in the Eighties during the &#8220;Kokusaika Boom&#8221;, when I too was hired at Japanese companies to help with companies &#8220;internationalization&#8221;, and got out real quick when I realized it was fallacious.  What do others think?  Have things changed?  I have included some posts below from The Commnity talking about this, and they seem to disagree with the Asahi.<\/p>\n<p>Asahi:  With overseas markets increasingly seen as the key to their survival, Japanese companies are adopting a more &#8220;international&#8221; look at home involving changes that would have been unheard of years ago.<\/p>\n<p>Long-held practices in hiring have been scrapped, as have limits on positions available to non-Japanese at the companies&#8217; head offices in Tokyo and other Japanese cities.<\/p>\n<p>Methods of communication have shifted as foreigners take on increasingly important roles in devising strategy for overseas sales.<\/p>\n<p>The employment of Lee Guanglin Samson, a 29-year-old Singaporean, is one example of how electronic appliance maker Toshiba Corp. is evolving.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Judging that a more global use of human personnel is necessary, we decided not to use Japanese-language abilities as a requirement for employment,&#8221; said Seiichiro Suzuki, head of Toshiba&#8217;s personnel center. &#8220;Those whom we want are people who will be able to become leaders of business divisions 25 years later.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Comment from a job interviewee:  Had two interviews at two major Japanese companies about two months ago (Nitori, the &#8220;home fashion&#8221; store found throughout Japan, and Zensho, the company behind Sukiya and family restaurants, 3rd largest food company behind McDonalds and Skylark).  I got &#8220;we don&#8217;t think a foreigner can handle the intense Japanese work environment&#8221; from both, Nitori in particular narrowed it down from &#8220;foreigner&#8221; to &#8220;Americans,&#8221; saying that it&#8217;s not likely I&#8217;d be able to keep up, and even if I did, I would just get burned out, because that&#8217;s just how Americans are. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[26,16,46,8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-6426","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-ironies-hypocrisies","category-labor-issues","category-practical-advice","category-8"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6426","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=6426"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/6426\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=6426"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=6426"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=6426"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}