{"id":8642,"date":"2011-03-15T06:59:54","date_gmt":"2011-03-14T21:59:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.debito.org\/?p=8642"},"modified":"2011-03-17T06:06:54","modified_gmt":"2011-03-16T21:06:54","slug":"discussion-is-japan-in-danger-of-a-nuclear-disaster-or-not-what-source-to-trust","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/?p=8642","title":{"rendered":"Discussion: Is Japan in danger of a nuclear disaster or not?  What source to trust?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Hi Blog. \u00a0I have to admit being thoroughly confused about what&#8217;s going on at <a href=\"http:\/\/search.japantimes.co.jp\/cgi-bin\/nn20110315x1.html\">Fukushima&#8217;s nuclear power plant<\/a>. \u00a0Are we in danger of a nuclear meltdown or aren&#8217;t we?<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m hearing from NHK and the connected authorities that there is no cause for concern and everything is under control (as roofs get blown off plant buildings).<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m also hearing from overseas sources that there is little cause for alarm. \u00a0For example, <a href=\"http:\/\/morgsatlarge.wordpress.com\/2011\/03\/13\/why-i-am-not-worried-about-japans-nuclear-reactors\/\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Yet I&#8217;m hearing from sources on the ground without an interest in the nuclear power industry making statements like these:<\/p>\n<p><em>(Source is anonymized, but is a trustworthy on about matters dealing with U.S. military:)<\/em><\/p>\n<p>========================<\/p>\n<p><em><strong>March 14, 2011: \u00a0You are absolutely right to have zero trust in Government of<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>Japan (GOJ) or Japanese-controlled press on this. \u00a0The Japanese authorities<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>simply won&#8217;t confirm the meltdown that is occurring. \u00a0Here are some of the<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>facts from the western press:<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>1. \u00a0The USS Ronald Reagan, located 100 miles Northeast, had to relocate due<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>to a radioactive plume cloud heading their way. <\/strong><\/em><br \/>\n<em><strong>2. \u00a017 members of the Reagan&#8217;s helicopter crews doing rescue missions have<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>tested positive for radioactivity. \u00a0All helos are being decontaminated as<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>they return to the Reagan. <\/strong><\/em><br \/>\n<em><strong>3. \u00a0The Navy has tested positively for airborne radioactivity up to 100<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>miles away from the plant. <\/strong><\/em><br \/>\n<em><strong>4. \u00a0The Japanese are pumping saltwater in to cool the rods. \u00a0This is only<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>done as a last-ditch effort, since salt corrodes the reactors. \u00a0After that,<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>they are out of options. <\/strong><\/em><br \/>\n<em><strong>5. \u00a0Cesium has been detected by the Navy in the air. \u00a0The presence of this<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>element in the air is an indication that the rods have actually started<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>melting. <\/strong><\/em><br \/>\n<em><strong>6. \u00a0The plant at Onagawa is also experiencing abnormally high radiation<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>levels. \u00a0This plant is much closer to Tokyo.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Now, let&#8217;s remember how the GOJ is treating the casualty numbers. \u00a0They are<\/em><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\"> <\/span><\/strong><strong><em>reporting 1600 casualties right now. \u00a0That&#8217;s because they do not even<\/em><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\"> <\/span><\/strong><strong><em>consider a person &#8220;dead&#8221; until they are identified, so even though they have<\/em><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\"> <\/span><\/strong><strong><em>thousands of bodies piled up, they won&#8217;t report them yet as &#8220;dead&#8221;. \u00a0That is<\/em><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\"> <\/span><\/strong><strong><em>the way the GOJ operates. \u00a0\u00a0They are simply not forthcoming with<\/em><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\"> <\/span><\/strong><strong><em>information. \u00a0The US Govt. was extremely frustrated at this way of operating<\/em><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\"> <\/span><\/strong><strong><em>during the Kobe earthquake. \u00a0The US Government could not get adequate<\/em><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\"> <\/span><\/strong><strong><em>situational awareness because the GOJ was simply not forthcoming. \u00a0This is<\/em><span style=\"font-weight: normal;\"> <\/span><\/strong><strong><em>no different.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Right now, the GOJ &#8220;officials have yet to confirm a meltdown because IT IS<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>TOO HOT INSIDE THE TO CHECK.&#8221; (cnn.com) So, do they expect the reactor to<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>cool down so they can check and confirm that the rods are actually<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>melting? \u00a0Noriyuki Shikata, a spokesman for Japan&#8217;s prime minister, said<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>Sunday the situation was &#8220;under control.&#8221; (cnn.com). \u00a0\u00a0Under control? You<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>can&#8217;t confirm if the rods are melting because it&#8217;s too hot to check, but<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>everything is under control?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em><strong>Stephanie Cooke, editor of Nuclear Intelligence Weekly for the atomic-energy<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>community, said best summarized the GOJ on this issue by saying &#8220;The more<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>they say they&#8217;re in control, the more I sense things may be out of control.<\/strong><span style=\"font-style: normal;\"> <\/span><\/em><em><strong>(cnn.com)&#8221;<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p>========================<\/p>\n<p>So which is it? \u00a0Again, Debito.org is disinclined to trust official sources given their record regarding safety and forthcomingness (<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Tokaimura_nuclear_accident\">witness 1999&#8217;s nuclear accident at Tokai-mura<\/a> and the consequent media debacle). \u00a0But I wish I knew what to believe. \u00a0Suggestions and links from Debito.org Readers welcome. \u00a0Arudou Debito<\/p>\n<p><strong>UPDATE MARCH 16:<\/strong> The thing that I don&#8217;t get about recent developments is that Japanese society tends to overcompensate in regards to safety issues. \u00a0Why don&#8217;t we see that happening whenever there&#8217;s a case of nuclear energy? \u00a0&#8220;Just stay indoors for the duration&#8221; is not what I would call adequate safety advice.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From a trustworthy source about the US military:<\/p>\n<p>March 14, 2011:  You are absolutely right to have zero trust in Government of Japan (GOJ) or Japanese-controlled press on this.  The Japanese authorities simply won&#8217;t confirm the meltdown that is occurring.  Here are some of the facts from the western press:<\/p>\n<p>1.  The USS Ronald Reagan, located 100 miles Northeast, had to relocate due to a radioactive plume cloud heading their way.<br \/>\n2.  17 members of the Reagan&#8217;s helicopter crews doing rescue missions have tested positive for radioactivity.  All helos are being decontaminated as they return to the Reagan.<br \/>\n3.  The Navy has tested positively for airborne radioactivity up to 100 miles away from the plant.<br \/>\n4.  The Japanese are pumping saltwater in to cool the rods.  This is only done as a last-ditch effort, since salt corrodes the reactors.  After that, they are out of options.<br \/>\n5.  Cesium has been detected by the Navy in the air.  The presence of this element in the air is an indication that the rods have actually started melting.<br \/>\n6.  The plant at Onagawa is also experiencing abnormally high radiation levels.  This plant is much closer to Tokyo&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[44,4,13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8642","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-discussions","category-japanese-government","category-media"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8642","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=8642"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8642\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=8642"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=8642"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.debito.org\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=8642"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}